>> tucker: we're here with the great justin moore. [ cheers and applause ] from arkansas! >> anna: stay tuned for the after the show show on www.foxandfriends.com. he's singing "if heaven wasn't so far away." >> tucker: see you tomorrow! bill: all right. on a friday, good morning, everybody. big day of news yet again. breaking news from the white house, signaling the u.s. is willing to act alone against syria if that is necessary. over a recent chemical attack that reportedly killed hundreds of people in a neighborhood outside of damascus as the war rages on. good morning. i'm bill hemmer here on a friday. >> you know me. right next door to your office. i'm heather nauert in for martha maccallum today. america's closest ally backing out of a possible coalition. britain voting against military action concluding there wasn't enough evidence who carried out the chemical attack.

listen. >> i don't think bashar al-assad should take any comfort in anything we're saying. i think he should be crystal clear knowing that the international community is standing up what he has done against his own people. the u.s. government is going to respond and he and his regime will be held accountable. bill: what do which expect today? the white house says it will release an unclassified intel report on that syrian chemical attack. there was a briefing last night with leading lawmakers. molly henneberg is leading our coverage. has the president spoken to the british prime minister since the vote went against military intervention in parliament last night, molly? >> reporter: the two have been in close consultation in the past week. british prime minister david cameron he expects, quote, president obama understands that the brits can not now join in any military attack. >> i haven't spoken to him since the debate and the vote but i

would expect to speak to him over the next day or some i don't think it's a question of having to apologize. >> reporter: after the u.k. parliament vote a spokesperson for the president's national security council put out a statement saying quote, the u.s. will continue to consult with the u.k. government, one of our closest allies and friends. as we have said president obama's decision-making will be guided by what is in the best interests of the united states. but french president francois hollande says whether or not the brits are involved he supports taking quote, firm action against syria and that includes a possible military strike. bill? bill: molly, will the president ask congress for authority? or what, how is the white house addressing that very issue? >> reporter: the white house says the president has been consulting with a number of members of congress but there's no indication the president intends to wait for a vote. and that upsets some members of congress. here's more. >> the president has laid down his red line. now i think he has to save face

so to speak and shoot missiles into syria. we, he hasn't evaluated the consequences of doing that the reaction of syria but most importantly, he ought to follow the lead of great britain and have congress, the people, make this decision, whether to go to war or not. >> reporter: top house democrat nancy pelosi did not rule out that she could support military action. she said in a statement, syrian president bashar al-assad, quote, gassing his own people is an issue of our national security, regional stability and global security. we must be clear that the united states rejects the use of chemical weapons by assad or any other regime. although pelosi also did urge the president to consult more with members congress. bill? bill: molly, thank you. there will be big news out of the white house again today. molly henneberg leading our coverage there there have been a few times the president said recently the america will not be going it alone. march 2011, the president referring to libya when i said

this, american leadership is not simply a matter of going it alone. there was a coalition there in libya. two years earlier september 2009 in an address to the united nations in new york city president obama saying, quote, those who used to chastise america for acting alone in the world can't stand now to wait for america to solve the world's problems alone, end quote. heather. >> that crisis can be traced back to february of 2011 and perhaps you remember this. 15 teenagers were inspired bit uprisings in tunisia and also in egypt. at the time they won't anti-regime graffiti on the walls after small town in southern syria. they were arrested and thrown in prison. a month later syrian troops reportedly fired on to a peaceful demonstration over the teenagers arrest and at that time several people were killed. by august of 2012, one year ago the president said, president obama of course said, that the syrian regime's use of chemical

weapons would be a red line, something we have heard so much about that comment. then just this past month, the obama administration announced it would send small arms and ammunition to the syrian rebels. now syria's ally, russia, reportedly sending warships to the mediterranean as expectations grow of an imminent strike from the united states. but russia's navy is denying a deployment of antisubmarine ships and missile cruisers in response to the events in syria saying it is all part of a planned rotation of the ships in that region. you believe that one? in the meantime the u... is deploying a fifth destroyer to the mediterranean. so much going on this morning, bill. bill: heather, we want to show our viewers a bit of the area down off the coast of oman, pegs gulf and off the coast of yemen. you have some of the fiercest aircraft carriers you will find anywhere on the planet. closer to syria, heather, you mentioned this, forward naval

aircraft, warships which there will be five very soon here off the coast of syria, out of the range of any anti-aircraft fire the syrians might have on the ground but still up to five in the eastern mediterranean. you see all the air force assets, whether up in italy, or cypress or southern turkey, there is a powerhouse of military activity in this region of the world. advance it one time specifically on syria itself now. what could be potential targets? we talked about the chemical storage areas here to the east of damascus, here around the town of homs and south of aleppo, southwest of a hope poe just near the mediterranean sea where many of these naval war craft are parked. one more time now, advance it, we'll show you what we believe, there are dozens and dozens of military bases throughout the country of syria, primarily in the western part of the country but there are six primary bases where assad used aircraft jets on past two-and-a-half of 1/2 years on the war that continues

down here of the capital city of damascus. this gives you a lay of the land what could be if indeed a strike happens, what the targets could be in syria. heather? >> bill, thank you so much. white house advisors briefing senior lawmakers on the situation in syria last night. here is the question we're all wondering this morning did congress get their questions answered? are lawmakers ready to back a strike against syria if the president orders the military to act? we'll talk in just a few minutes to oklahoma senator james inhofe, he is the ranking member on the senate armed services committee and he was on the call last night, one of a few -- and members of house. new insight today into the labor market in america and it is not good. the percentage of americans looking for a job, or who have one, well, it is reportedly plunging to a 34-year low. take a look at the chart right here. shows what it has been like since the recession started. back in 2007 until now and it suggests a real change in the face of unemployment in our

country. more people are not working at all. part-time employment is exploding and teenagers, they're out of summer jobs. fox business network's stuart varney joins us to break it all down. hi, there, stuart, what can you tell us about these numbers? let's dig a little deeper. >> okay, on the eve of the labor day weekend i have another grim headline for you, heather. you can put this one in the my how times change file. look at this. one-third of teenagers, 16 to have 19-year-olds had a job this summer, 32%. that's it. it was 52% had a job in the summer of 1999. that is a real change, a shift in the labor market in america. you add that, to the 90 million americans who are not at work as of right now, that's a record number. you add it to the trend towards part-time work of large every large majority of the new jobs created in america are part time, not full time and the

picture is emerging, as you said, heather, it's a grim picture of the labor market in the united states of america today. >> but the administration certainly boasts that the numbers are improving. unemployment numbers are down a little bit here and there but your numbers and looking at all this paints a very different picture? >> yes, you've got to dig a little teach doer than the spin headlines. yes the economy is recovering a little. it is the worst recovery from any recession since world war ii. heather i have the latest number on wages and salaries. this another shocker. last month wages and salaries went down, okay, down .3%, but that is one of the biggest month to month declines we've seen in a long time. while wages are salaries down? we're moving towards part-time work which doesn't pay as much as full-time work. >> especially if you have toable cobble a couple of jobs which is hard for families.

number of people on disability at all time-high in the united states, at 8.9 million americans. >> yep. where you ask, where are the people going, the 90 million people who are not working? as you said, over eight million people on social security disability rolls. a lot of people are keeping working. older people still working. for the vast there's no jobs. taken out of the workforce. that's it. >> hard to argue with that. stuart varney from the fox business network. thanks as always. bill: gdp last quarter ticked up to 2.5%. a lot of people cheering which is better than 1.5%. took us six years. >> you have to dig down the numbers to figure it out. bill: 10 minutes past the hour. we're getting rolling on a busy friday morning. there are new demand to fix obamacare and comes from some of the very people who were obamacare's biggest supporters. why they fear the law could be very bad for them. we'll explain that, heather. >> brand new video obtained by

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heather: powerful storms leaving major damage in parts of southern california. heavy wind toppling trees and then downpours triggering major flooding in the city of riverside, california. folks there say their neighborhood was hit with a sudden wall of water. listen to this. >> it was sideways rain. next thing you know the house got hit like a freight train. it was the biggest thump i ever heard. earthquakes never compare to that. power lines through the trees.

it is nuts. >> we should have seen the dust and all of the water that just came off the roofs, and it went down the streets. as you can see. heather: that storm leaving thousands without power in the area. thankfully no injuries reported just yet but we'll keep you posted. bill: there are new problems for the president's health care law. some of the very unions that fought to get the law passed are stepping up pressure on law makers to fix it. they fear it will harm their members by encouraging employers to cut worker hours so they don't have to pay for health care coverage. here is the president of the afl-cio saying the law was not thought through and more. >> health care system in the united states is broken, was broken, and continues to an extent to be broken. we pay twice as much for health care as a nation and our results are half as effective. we have been working with the administration to find solutions i think what are inadvertent are

holes in the act. when the act was put together, it wasn't thought completely through and so we worked on a daily basis. i'm hopeful that we get something done in the very near future. >> said a lot there. wasn't thought completely through and a whole lot of other stuff. tucker carlson, juan williams. good morning to both of you. tucker is this kind of thing you expect to hear from richard trumka? >> you wouldn't. trumka runs an organization is adjunct part of democratic party. it is a funding arm for democratic party. they fought for the president's election and re-election for the passage of this law. this is a huge deal. the problem for them benefits are a huge part of union compensation. many union jobs the benefits are worth more than salaries. obamacare cuts value in some cases of their medical benefits. this is unacceptable to them. you can sort of see why. bill: juan, he said it was not thought completely through. we kind of knew that, didn't we? i mean, nancy pelosi said that

for crying out loud. >> i think everybody said that you know what? this is a big rollout and you will have to have changes made along the way, including the president, that he understands they're going to have to be moments when you have to readjust to meet the realities of the moment. i think what rich trumka said was most important, beyond the political impact of, you know part of the president's base, objecting to the law as it stand is that he is continuing to work on this. that he understands, that if you continue to work on it, you can continue to improve it. but he is not asking for the repeal of the law. bill: you know what he is asking for, tucker? they're asking for some help. >> asking for carveouts. bill: how many people have been helped already, including members of congress and people who work for them? >> sure. there have been a lot of exemptions granted for obamacare, to obamacare. some i think have been politically motivated. nancy pelosi's district in san francisco had disproportionately large number

of exemptions. no question the unions will have their concerns addressed. ironically one of the main concerns this law will force employers to cut worker hours. unions take credit for 40 hour work week, maybe correctly. this pushes many employers to under 30 hours a week. they describe this obamacare as quote, a threat to the 40 hour work week. that is devastating. bill: i think that is the biggest point to be made here. that is a reflection how this law is changing. >> right. bill: the american economy, juan. you're putting people at 30 hours or lower so that the companies, can save money. >> i don't think that is on a large-scale. i think there's a specific niche in terms of employment part-time employment and you're exactly right in saying unions don't want more people falling out -- bill: large-scale, small cale, medium scale, what does it matter? >> it does matter. bill: no, you're forcing people to change their lives. >> no, bill, you're talking a whole scale change to the u.s. economy.

so the degree of change is very important here and it's a change that will impact a small segment, you're right, i agree with you, and the unions are concerned because they don't want people to fall out of their union roles and members. bill: i understand it. if i'm a father of two and working a job and got 35 hours a week or even 40 hours a week, my boss says, hey man, you will work 28.5 from now on, that affects my lifestyle. >> does it affect your life if you have no health insurance? if in fact the business says we can't hire people, guess what, the health care costs in this country are catastrophic, which is what we were hearing before obamacare came into the picture? bill: i'm not sighing that cost go down, tucker. >> no way you can argue that all care whiffle increase full-time employment. in fact last year, 7 out 8 new jobs created that the president is taking credit for, bragging about is part-time jobs. vast majority of jobs created are part time. that is legacy of obamacare. people would have a choice.

people would choose to have a job rather than health insurance, i certainly would. you can't make that choice. >> no, you need health insurance in this country because health care costs are so high. just this week we've seen polls indicate while still a large number of americans don't like obamacare, they're very clear the status quote in terms of health care costs, health care services is unacceptable. we hear the same thing from big business. that they want to know exactly what's going on with health care. that's the problem with obamacare. there is so many unknowns. bill: hold on. one point. what trumka said this is obviously something no one intended. this law will have multiple implications that no one intended thatwell be working through for years. you need to fix it. >> that's true. bill: we've seen them fix it for some others including the thing that passed it into law. >> there is not living human being that understands exactly what is in obamacare. that is how vast and appalling the law. >> doesn't mean it is not a good

thing to reform health care. >> we have no idea! come on. >> yes we do. we know what we have isn't working. bill: gentlemen, see you soon. got to run. what's next. heather: they have no idea what will happen there. tearing down a city to build it back up? we'll tell you about a major city that is hope this the is the solution to decades and decades of problems. bill: this is captured on cell phone. changing the life of the man who made this shot. check it out. >> so happy the balancedded on green. then i watch watched it and that actually has a chance. e. made gluten-free cereals in a bunch of yummy flavors. like cinnamon chex, honey nut chex, and chocolate chex... we're in cereal heaven. so thanks. from the mcgregors, 'cause we love chex. ♪ now you can give yourself a kick in the rear! v8 v-fusion plus energy.

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bill: there has been a major settlement in the nfl. a concussion lawsuit involving thousands of former players. the league will shell out some

$765 million compensating athletes for injuries and medical costs. it will cover continuing exams for any retired players. more than 4500 players filing a lawsuit stemming from claims the nfl failed to inform players of known risks. all retired nfl players regardless whether they were involved in that suit can also be evaluated for potential care or treatment. this is a big, big deal that will have lasting implications for years to come and it comes right as we get ready for the start of the season. heather: that's right. such a huge concern for some moms and dads out there whose kids play football in school. so, something to look out for definitely. be very careful out there. listen to this one. detroit on the rebound question mark there? federal, state and local officials are kicking off a new campaign spending more than $50 million to tear down thousands of abandoned buildings in order to help revive some of the city's hardest hit areas.

let's talk about this. garrett tenney is live for us in the motor city. the big question is, is this going to help? >> reporter: well, heather of the goal of this program is to stablize neighborhoods and redice foreclosures like taking homes like these and making them look like this. stay away and scrappers will be shot. signs like these are common site in neighborhoods all across the motor city where there are more than 78,000 abandoned homes. most of them fallout from the housing crisis. more than 30 of those homes are on robert couch's small street and have become magnets for squatters, scrappers and criminals. >> bring our neighborhood down, our community down. it ain't no community. we tried to do what we can as neighbors. neighbors can't do it all by their self. >> reporter: now help is on the way in the form of wrecking balls and dumping trucks. in the first-of-its-kind program michigan is taking on detroit's foreclosure crisis and

attempting to stablize neighborhoods by demolishing more than 4,000 abandoned homes across the city, calling it the largest blight removal effort in state history. >> by eliminating blight in a neighborhood we increase property values, give folks incentive to stay in their homes, therefore, maybe they won't get into foreclosure problem. >> reporter: robert couch says he is already seeing a difference. >> people look around, see the neighborhood is a lot better than what it was in the past. so it's doing a little bit better. >> reporter: state officials say they would need about $600 million to demolish all of the blight throughout the city. so this current program, it only has funding for about 4,000 of the 78,000 abandoned homes. it is really only a drop in the bucket. they're hoping if it has success they will be able to get more funding to continue their efforts. heather? heather: thank you so much there in detroit. bill: what a changing city that is. you want it to get turned around and keep hoping and pulling for detroit, maybe. heather: it's a sad situation.

bill: this night of a football game turned terrifying a football fawn rushed to the hospital after falling from the second level of a packed stadium. you will hear from some of the witnesses who were there, wow. heather: amazing. top congressional leaders speaking with the president last night about that situation in syria. they didn't actually speak with the president but heard from administration officials, one of the members on this call, the unclassified call, joins us live coming up next. [gunfire] ♪ andund ♪ turn around barry ♪ i finally found the right snack ♪ ♪ ...and a great deal. . ♪ i finally found the right snack ♪ grrrr ahhh let's leave the deals to hotels.com. oh my gosh this is so cool... awesome! perfect! save up to 30% plus an extra 12% off with coupon... now until labor day. only at hotels.com

heather: white house advisors briefing senior lawmakers on the syria situation last night. the administration is expected to release a declassified intelligence report today on last week's chemical weapons attack that killed hundreds of syrians. republican senator james inhofe was on the call last night, one of 26 members of congress. a ranking member of the senate armed services committee and he joins us now. this is something congress has been calling for, a personal plea on the part of the administration. what did they say to laws night? what key points did they make? >> well, first of all, heather, it was an hour 1/2 of john kerry trying to sell us on the president's program of military intervention in syria, and, there's a new term you're going to hear over and over and over again as we did last night called, a broad range of options. secretary kerry said that we're

going to offer the president a broad range of options but you know, we talked for an hour 1/2 and they didn't mention one of the options. my concern is this. and i have to say that i'm the only member who is opposed to military intervention, and i am because of what's happened to the military. we don't have resources. we don't have the assets to get involved in another conflict. heather: but yet you have said you are opposed to military action correct me if i'm wrong, unless a broader strategy about our role in that region of the world is laid out. and a budget comes forward for that? >> where would the budget come from? heather: yeah. >> let's face it. the military has been so degraded last four 1/2 years under the obama administration we're now furloughing people. in my state of oklahoma, 20,000 people are on furlough working for military bases. they have grounded 14 squardrons, flying squadrons. that is how desperate things are

in the military. so we don't have the assets. heather: do we have the money to pay for this? you mentioned a broad range of options that secretary kerry was laying out and not getting into any kind of specifics. there is a problem here. that could be mission creep. if we go in there, launch some airstrikes, where does it all end? was that answered for you? >> no, it was not answered. that was my point, as i said heather, i was only one who said we can't have military intervention in syria. it isn't going to work. now a lot of people are saying, well you could do it clean and go in and send a cruise missile in and everything will be fine and we won't get our hands dirty. that is not the way it works. in fact on your program yesterday ollie north made it very clear that would not work. you're going, if you have military intervention you will get involved again. we can't afford to do that. heather: and that can certainly end up, you know, some would argue with boots on the ground there in syria with our military already stretched so thin. i'm wondering if you spoke with

any members of congress after this call? if there was any sort of concensus colling out from them? >> no. in fact i stayed on the call for an hour and 15 minutes. i missed the last 15 minutes. most of the responses were very similar to mind but they didn't take a position in opposition to it. i know that is not a very popular thing to do but moist of them, many of them, are not aware of what has happened to our military. right now taking the projected budget of the president obama, that would take $487 billion out of the military and that's not with sequestration. so we just don't have the assets to do it right now. and i agree. if i could read one quote from admiral winfield, vice chairman of the joint chief of staffs. heather: what's that? >> he said we could for the first time in my career have instances we may be asked to respond to a crisis and we would have to say we can not. heather: crisis elsewhere in the world if something crops up.

something certainly to be very aware of. >> we could have a crisis facing us, let's face it. the big problem in the middle east is iran and they are, our intelligence tells they will have the ability to have a weapon and a delivery system by 2015. pretty scary when you think about that. heather: they're watching closely how we are handling this right now. i'm wondering if you think this whole discussion about launching an attack on syria is more about the president's saving face over those comments, about a red line, or is this anything about preserving or saving america's national security. what are your thoughts on that? >> well, first of all he should not have said what he said. we should talk about the red line. bad enough to say that, but not to define what the red line was and when we, they crossed the red line. that put us in a situation where the president has to do something, and, so, now, the effort is to try to get the

leadership of congress, and i think all 26 of us were on that phone call yesterday, to try to support him in this. now, look what happened. right during the meeting that we had that hour 1/2 we heard that great britain decided to bag this thing and not to become involved. well that happened during the hour 1/2. so things are not moving in their direction. i just think, one last thing that has got to be said, there is an assumption, heather, that if we do this that we're going to stop what they're doing right now in terms of gassing their own people. i'm not ready to accept that assumption. but i am concerned very much about us getting a military intervention that every is easy and is not going to be one that will be clean and quick. heather: so the highlight of this, you're going to need a heck of a lot more information, you and your fellow members congress before we do anything on this. senator, thank you so much, senator jim inhofe of oklahoma was on the call last night, we'll see what comes out of the

white house today. bill: we mentioned at top of the hour too. a couple days ago, heather, they said some of this classified information made public. some of it. heather: yeah. some did hedeclassified information is supposed to come out but apparently this call last night was not on secured telephone lines, meaning no classified information could be presented to those members of confess. as the senator pointed out all the information coming out was pretty vague. bill: we'll see whether or not that unclassified info comes out today. 22 minutes before the hour. could change public opinion, you know, depending how convincing it is or is not. one shot changed his life. roll it. jeff barton, making a hole-in-one at a charity tournament in new mexico, winning a cool one million dollars. hang on. hold it, hold it. there you, okay. barton called his wife with the news. wait until you hear this. roll this. >> i just won a million dollars.

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bill: get back to the top story. throughout the weekend, the u.s. prepping for the possibility of military action by itself. after lawmakers in london vote against supporting the u.s. wow. the prime minister, david cameron, had this to say after that vote last night. >> let me say the house has not voted for either motion tonight. i strongly believe in the need for a tough response to the use of chemical weapons, but i also believe in respecting the will of this house of commons.

bill: rick gren nell, former spokesman for the last four u.s. ambassadors to the u.n. and ourourour newest fox nice contributor in atlanta. first you say, this is a disaster of diplomacy from the beginning. how so? >> well, look diplomacy is really tough. it take as long time. tough start early. you have to build your coalition and you have to talk to a lot of people. we haven't had that diplomatic push here in the united states in a broad, i mean, let's just take for instance, if syria really was a diplomatic priority and we were going to present the case to the u.n. in the form of a resolution two points, one, samantha power was on vacation when the emergency meeting was called and the case was presented to the security council. that sends a terrible message. the second point is, there was no u.n. draft resolution to negotiate or talk about until earlier this week.

i don't understand that if syria has been a building problem for two years, why didn't we have a draft resolution, at the u.n. so that we could talk about it? 2 takes time to do diplomacy. other countries that sit on the security council, 15 countries in total, they need to have time to go back and talk to their respective leaders in their capitols. that can't be done in a rush job. i will just add, when we were at the u.n. in the bush administration and we made the case for the iraq war we built a coalition beginning very early on in november of 2000 two, we had a -- 2000 two, we had a resolution negotiated it. passed unanimously the security council and we continued to negotiate after that resolution all the way through to march and still built coalitions. and by the time that we entered which had a 40-plus country

coalition. when the british are not joining us now i think it's a problem. bill: yeah, did this administration assume that the support would be there? >> you know, president obama has always talked about how he has restored credibility around the world. susan rise, when she was at the u.n., it was in her stump speech. everywhere she went, we have returned credibility and built coalitions. i think that, what really has happened, is that they have been very naive about diplomacy. around from the beginning, candidate obama talked about how he would talk to his enemies and he actually made fun of the bush diplomatic strategy of icing certain countries and trying to isolate them from the diplomati. and what we've seen is, that that strategy hasn't worked and that, the obama team is really more interested in being popular than they are actually leading. it is not always popular to

lead. bill: you went a bit further with our producers earlier today. you believe the current strategy of engagement is actually dangerous, dangerous how and to whom? >> well, i think that it is proving to be very dangerous here in syria. let's go back from the very beginning, candidate obama wanted to engage our enemies as i said. in syria, that played out because, he took our u.s. ambassador, ambassador ford, and sent our ambassador back to damascus to engage with the sir january, to engage with president assad, having years of no ambassador there. president bush felt like we needed to isolate syria and assad, that is why he pulled our ambassador back. that is why he told nancy pelosi at the time, don't go into syria and sit down with president assad and give him credibility. don't do that we're trying to isolate syria. what the liberals and the obama campaign decided to do was make

fun of that strategy and said, why would we not engauge our enemies. so president obama sends our u.s. ambassador back into damascus. it gives assad a lot of credibility. what we find years later is that credibility was really a problem of. president assad has never been for his people and look what we have? we have 100,000 people dead, 1300 people gassed and a million refugees. i think isolating president assad was the right strategy. bill: rick, i think the vote in london surprise ad lot of people and there are reports that they could vote again on tuesday of next week. we'll see whether or not that happens. based ton what we know right now, do you believe there is, going to be an attack, led by the united states, that will happen over the coming weekend or the coming week? >> well, i don't know. obviously i'm not privy to intelligence. i have no idea what president obama is going to do. he seems to be shooting from the

hip diplomatically. i wouldn't be surprised if he does it militarily. i think it is dangerous to have iran and hezbollah see that the united states is alone. that's not a very good strategy and, i hope president obama sees that that could be very dangerous for america and our allies. bill: appreciate the analysis. thank you. rick grenell. with us out of los angeles today. thank you, rick. 11 before the hour. heather: so much interesting information coming out today, certainly. more than a little more than a month before the health care exchanges will open, we're learning new details about the law and how it could impact your wall lit. we'll tell you how small businesses may pass the cost along to you. bill: check this out. that was a dump truck hit by a train. police rushing to the scene, to save the driver inside. heather: oh, my goodness. bill: that's him. he alive. one. officers there will tell us how this happened. heather: my goodness hey, it's me, progressive insurance.

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at last check he was conscious at the hospital. we hope for the best for him. heather: thank you, bill. new fallout from the health care law. listen to this one. small business owners, trying to cope with the rising costs appear to be passing down that cost burden to employees. now annual premiums paid by small business employees have nearly tripled since 1999. look at this. from $5700 annually, that is for a family, to more than $15,000 this year alone. it is no wonder people are having a hard time paying that. joining us charles payne from the fox business network. you're a small business owner your see. nobody knows that better than you. >> i grapple with this for the last several years. you know it is one of these things you have a tug-of-war with your employees, you know, i don't think a lot of people, a lot of employees understood how bad of a problem it was until now. here's the sad thing. kaiser did all the research. one thing they said stood out the most, the health care law is

driving those rates higher at a faster rate. this is already reality for people but this is going to really go into overdrive. heather: part of what contributes to this mandated coverage in certain states. you have to got include, got to inconclude that. that will increase the costs. insurance companies are looking at the thing we don't know what will happen with obamacare. let's raise the rates now. absolutely. >> tell now one knows. this is the thing. anyone watching, you work at a small business, 58% pay $1,000 or more deductible. the average is 1700. large business, even for large business owntory attack, good talent or better workers. still small business continues to be the engine of going for this country. we're making it tough to keep that up. heather: in order to increase rates, insurance companies have to get signoff by insurance rate commissioners. a lost them appointed by governors or elected.

can't just blame the companies in this. look at regulators themselves. >> there is a real vicious, golly, how can i call it. this feels like, when all of this is said and done, the insurance companies get what they want. somehow politicians get what they want, but people, particularly the smaller as we go down to the lower level of societies, don't get what was promised. this is another example. look at breaks have been given, heather. heather: tax breaks. >> they can charge any rate they want next year. heather: the administration knows cost will go up. we tried to leave it to the private sector. they failed. therefore we have to put in nationalized health care. >> a lot of people think that was the ultimate goal and deliberately set up that way. government is so bad at doing this stuff i don't know i can give them that much credit. heather: they're not that smart. >> not that smart. heather: charles payne. bill: bringing the pain. heather: he sure is, isn't he? bill: obtaining new video of of the fort hood killer nidal hasan

long before he shot 13. look at this from 2007. when he said that day at the pentagon, and why it did not raise more red flags. heather: then as the white house considers its options on syria we'll have a live report on the developing story.

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bill: 10 a.m. on the east coast, 10 a.m. in washington, d.c. where we are learning at 12:30 eastern time, two and a half hours from now, secretary of state kerry will make a statement regarding syria. we await more information on that. as all eyes are on washington awaiting the president's next move concerning the crisis in damascus, if the u.s. does take military action against syria, we might be entirely on our own. london rejected the call for war last night. we push on. i'm bill hemmer, welcome to a nice hour. heather: >> france also adding to this, saying they want more information. so we truly may be alone in this. good morning, everyone, i'm heather nauert, and the u.s. is

now signaling that it is prepared to act alone. this after the british parliament voted against taking any part in an attack on syria. the u.s. now has five destroyers that are positioned in the mediterranean, and just last night secretary of state john kerry briefing some members of congress on the situation. senator john conyers: >> secretary kerry said we were going to offer the president a broad range of options, but, you know, we talked for an hour and a half, and they didn't mention one of the options. i have to say i'm the only member who is opposed to military intervention, and i am because of what's happened to the military. we don't have the resources, we don't have the assets to get involved in another conflict. bill: james inhofe from last hour. jennifer griffin live at the pentagon, good morning to you. the news with secretary kerry

and more. good morning there. >> reporter: good morning, bill. i think the reason you heard senator inhofe talk about what you can expect to hear from secretary kerry in that they have presented a range of options to the president, that is because there is some degree of concern that so many leaks have come out about what a limited strike this will be that it's given the assad regime time to prepare. senior u.s. defense officials that i've spoken to this morning tell me from their point of view they can carry out a strike in a matter of hours, as soon as the president gives them the order. now that the british have pulled out, the u.s. has a fifth destroyer armed with tomahawks it has moved into position off the coast of syria, that's the uss stout. the planning for this mission has been complete for some time, i'm told. one senior official tells me that it would have been better if the strike had occurred days ago. the assad regime has had time to prepare and move some munitions around. >> our approach is to continue

to find an international coalition that will act together. and i think you're seeing a number of countries say publicly, state their position on the use of chemical weapons. we'll continue to consult with our allies and our partners and friends on this. >> reporter: defense secretary hagel returns from his trip to asia late this evening. the president, of course, takes off for the g20 summit on tuesday. that gives them a somewhat limited time frame in which for the pentagon to strike if they're going to do so before the president's trip, bill. bill: all right, jennifer, the impression you're hearing from those who were briefed by the national security team last night on that, what'd they call it, an unclassified phone call, did it appear to them whether the president had made up his mind or not? >> reporter: again, they

continue to say the president has not made up his mind, but the impression from the 26 members of congress who were on that call last night is that the u.s. is prepared to go it alone. militarily they don't need anyone else to carry out this mission, but every day that goes by opposition in congress to a strike seems to grow amidst questions of what good it would do. >> the president is going to have to make his case to the congress and to the american people. i think before he takes any action. the problem that he finds himself in and has placed us in is if he does not take action now after making these statements, then we become a paper tiger to the rest of the world. >> is it a national security interest? are we threatened personally? the answer is, no, so congress should make the decision, the president shouldn't make that decision. >> reporter: today the french put certain caveats on the use of their military in any sort of

strike. the french who were pushing the united states to get involved in the beginning. bill: jennifer, thank you, and there will be headlines again from you, so when you have more, come on back. thanks, jennifer griffin. here's heather. heather: the white house is talking with leading lawmakers as it now weighs its options. >> the president contemplates what kind of response is appropriate to the situation that we've seen in syria. the president believes it's important for us to consult with congress. we've done that in a robust way that has involved reading out some of the conversations that the president and others have had with our allies around the globe, that has involved the sharing of some intelligence although that's difficult to do in this setting because, as i mentioned, the conference call is unclassified. it also includes a conversation about some of the options that are available to the president. bill: all right, that from the white house briefing yesterday. we'll see what they have to say today and, again, secretary kerry to make some sort of statement at 12:30 eastern time. meanwhile, the former president,

president bush, was asked about this matter on syria. brian in dallas, texas, sat down with mr. bush at the seventh annual patriot golf day. watch. >> the president's got a tough choice to make, and if he decides to use our military, he'll have the greatest military ever backing him up. >> right. what has syria been like for the u.s. in the eight years that you served? would you say that, i mean, the feeling that they had in supporting the insr. genesee, there was no doubt about that, correct? >> i was not a fan of mr. assad. he's an ally of iran, and he's made mischief. >> made mischief, and for a long time he felt impervious to america. >> yeah. and the president's going to have to make a tough decision. >> and what about the rest of the world saying, well, we're not really too sure, we're going

to wait for the u.n. [laughter] you've been through that before. >> a president has to make a tough call, brian. i know you're trying to subtly rope me into the issues of the day. i refuse to be roped in. >> i understand. i'm not even subtly -- [laughter] your unique perspective. >> putting our military into harm's way is the toughest decision a president will make. bill: and that last point so well taken when you think about the event he is at today with wounded warriors and those who have served. heather: and the former president is always so gracious, he never really says much about president obama and how he's handling any given situation. bill: brian tried. [laughter] heather: he sure did. way to go, brian, on trying. now we've got a fox news alert to bring you on some exclusive new video that's just been obtained by fox news. it shows convicted kill ernie call the hasan -- nidal hasan two years before his rampage at fort hood.

in this video he gives a presentation on muslims in the military and, get this, it's at walter reed medical center. now, in are saying this video should have raised immediate red flags. our chief intelligence correspondent catherine herridge is live in washington with more. he says some really interesting stuff in here. tell us about that. >> reporter: thanks, heather. bearing fbi subtitles, the presentation at walter reed in june 2007 called the quran world view as it relates to muslims in the u.s. military was provided to the defense as part of discovery in the fort hood case, and two of the four segments were released to fox news by hasan who was acting as his own attorney. >> while it's unknown what the entire video shows, hasan is asked about martyrdom, provoking nervous laughter from the audience. >> but it's there. there's a lot of virgins. it's heaven, you know? it's heaven. that's all i can say.

it's there though. >> in the video, he presents a powerpoint presentation where he lays out recommendations to reduce inside orer attacks. >> i think the department of defense should allow muslim soldiers the option of being released as conscientious objectives to -- objectors to increase the morale in the military. >> reporter: hasan, who is now sentenced to death, warned: >> talking about god in country, but here we're talking about god versus country. >> reporter: that hourlong presentation was part of hasan's requirement to be an army psychiatrist. heather: catherine, he also goes on to talk about the 72 vir jibs -- virgins that one would potentially find in heaven someday. why wasn't he stopped? why didn't the military do anything? >> reporter: well, that's a great question. hasan's radicalization began after his mother's death in 2001, and it really came to a head in a very public way in 2007 at walter reed where one of his supervisors said he was, indeed, a religious fanatic. but rather than act, he was

promoted from captain to major two years later. >> hasan is basically waving red flags in this briefing. the fort hood tragedy did not have to happen. major hasan had a significant accomplice when he pulled out his weapons and started shooting down unarmed innocents, and that accomplice was political correctness in our military. >> reporter: there was no immediate comment from walter reed when we asked them what kind of changes they've made in light of the hasan case, heather. heather: boy, that is just chilling. catherine herridge, thank you so much. >> reporter: you're welcome. heather: bill, could you imagine being a man or woman sitting there with him during his presentation hearing all of that, you heard on video some nervous laughter. understandably so. bill: i think one of the big points that needed to be made, he made these comments in washington, was later moved to texas, sent to be deployed to afghanistan. they knew he had e-mail contact with anwar al-awlaki, so the

military, the army knew about him for a very long time but did not take action, and now you're hearing it. heather: yeah. bill: and we were aware of these reports several years ago. heather: right. but to see it on this video, very different thing. colonel ralph peters laid it out clearly. bill: we're going to move to the obama administration reacting to comparisons between what's going on in syria and the leadup to the iraq war a decade ago and how is the white house handing that situation now? oh, the irony. chris wallace. heather: and obamacare is coming under fire once again. why some are calling the president's signature law the unaffordable care act. bill: also watch this video. that's a freight train colliding with a dump truck, and that is the driver of the dump truck that you're watching right now. he's alive, he's okay. one of the survivors who fist was on that scene will tell us how they saved that man's life. >> eight or nine firefighters rushed to the door of the dump truck where it was tilted over to the left side of the train. i think i saw a chain saw go

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bill: a major drug cartel leader arrested in mexico. police capturing mario nunez a few miles from el paso, texas. he's accused in the killings of more than 350 people. the victims' bodies discovered in mass graves in mexico back in 2011. nunez is also wanted in the u.s. on drug trafficking charges. heather: well, as we wait for a signal about how the united states will respond to the crisis in syria, the white house is flat out rejecting any comparisons between what is happening now and the buildup to iraq back in 2003. the white house saying that the circumstances and the goals are very, very different. here's a white house press secretary, josh earnest, at yesterday's briefing.

>> what we saw in that circumstance was an administration that was searching high and low to produce evidence to justify a military invasion, an open-ended military invasion of another country with the final goal being regime change. the president's been very clear that we're, that he is not contemplating an open-ended military action. he is contemplating what we're talking about here is something that's a very discreet and limited. heather: chris wallace is the anchor of fox news sunday, good morning to you, chris. what do you think of this argument that the administration's making? >> well, there are some big differences between this situation and iraq. there are also some similarities. in terms of the differences, i think josh earn makes a legitimate point. we have much harder evidence that the as saturday -- assad regime has used chemical weapons, we have video of those hundreds of people who appear to have been killed.

we have no such hard evidence in the case of saddam hussein, and we're talking about a much more limited strike, some would say maybe too limited. but we're talking about, you know, lobbing some cruise missiles or offshore air strikes as opposed to a full-scale invasion by hundreds of thousands of american troops. on the other hand, you can hear in the british parliament and also from your interview with james inhofe that the whole iraq situation colors this and that there is concern that because we've got, made commitments or we've made statements that somehow we're now going to get into a war or some kind of military situation whose results we can't predict. in addition there's, obviously, the irony of barack obama now defending the idea of unilateral action, defending the idea of not consulting or getting approval from congress, things that he railed against when he was a senator. heather: yeah. so, certainly, the senator earlier today said that they were given a broad range of options but yet no specifics.

is that enough information for members of congress at this point to support what may happen there, to support a possible strike against syria? >> well, i'm not sure you want to lay out in an unsecure phone call -- this was not a secure phone line because there were three dozen members of congress. heather: sure. should it have been? they could have made it a secure situation where the they could have laid out classified information that they need to know. should it have been? >> well, i think it probably should have been, but i'm not sure whose fault that was. the problem was you have 35 members of congress who are all over the country on recess, and, you know, it was impossible for them all to get on secure lines wherever they were taking this phone call. you know, you can criticize the president on the one hand for not calling congress back, and i think that's a legitimate criticism, on the other hand, you can criticize congress for not coming back on their own. they don't have to wait for a call from the president to do it. but i'm not sure -- the point i was trying to make is given the nature of this phone call, i don't think you can sit there

and with 35 people, you know, some of them on pay phones at national parks give them what our battle plan is going to be. heather: all right, fair enough, chris. of course, the headline today is that the united states may actually go it alone. if we end up doing that, if the united states does, what does that mean for this administration? >> well, you know, i think that that really raises the question of how badly this has been handled, the fact that for all the criticism that obama and bide season and a lot of democrats -- biden and a lot of democrats laid at the feet of george w. bush before the invasion of iraq, he was able to put together dozens of countries in the so-called coalition of the willing which a lot of democrats laughed at. at this point our closest and longest ally, britain, has jumped ship on us, and there's really a strong possibility that we're going to end up doing this, as you say, alone, by ourselves without any military buy-in from any other country. and you can just go back and look at the quotes of barack obama talking about how terrible that kind of unilateral action

was when he was a senator and a candidate. heather: boy. and did you ever think you'd hear that, go it alone, once again after we heard it so much in iraq. chris wallace, this sunday you have senator jack reed and also jim inhofe. they are joining you this sunday. this is certainly a show not to miss. you're also going to speak to congressman peter king to talk about the new leaks from edward snowden and some really interesting information out of that. chris wallace in washington, thanks. bill: chris, thank you. in a moment here, new information on the raid that killed usama bin laden. what we're now learning about how the military found the most wanted terrorist in the world and how this information, now public, can harm our national security today. heather: and then a heated confrontation between two cops was caught on tape, and we'll tell you what created a very dangerous situation. >> we've had three police impersonators! >> you know what? >> carjackings, guns [ male announcer ] come to the lexus golden opportunity sales event

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bill: new details now on the raid that killed usama bin laden. leaked nsa documents show that the u.s. navy seals were guided by a fleet of satellites that gave them vital information. peter brooks is a former cia officer, senior fellow for national security affairs at the heritage foundation. peter, good morning to you. >> good morning. bill: i think the american fascination with this raid is never ending. >> right. bill: but in this case the only reason we know about this is because of edward snowden. what does that do to our security? >> yes. it's very damaging. bill, there's no doubt about that. the fact is that these are critical intelligence sources and methods that even though we're very interested in and i totally understand that, our enemies are also very interested in it, and they will use it to their advantage. if we can't keep these sort of things secret, we're going to be, we're going to limit, we're going to have problems with our, with issues of national security in the future, and this is very

troubling. hillhill -- bill: how do terrorists react when they hear word of this? do they improvise? do they have a backup plan? what's your experience? >> they're going to change their operations. they're going to do things differently because they know this now. remember, usama bin laden the trail went cold for years because he found out we were listening to his satellite phone conversations. this is the same thing here. they're going to do the same thing, and it's going to make it more difficult to prosecute the war on terror because of the leaks of edward snowden which i would say is probably going to rank up there with one of the most damaging espionage cases in history. bill: you think so, that bad, that serious? >> absolutely. and we haven't seen the end of it, bill. we were just talking about this usama bin laden raid, but the entire leak about the u.s. intelligence budget, there's a lot more in there. the last thing you want to your enemies to know ask what you --

is what you know and what you don't know, and now they know a lot. there's others, north korea, russia, china, and they will do things to their, to disadvantage our abilities to collect intelligence which is our first line of defense. bill: so then bring it back to snowden. that makes him even more vital, to find him in moscow and bring him home. and have him face justice just like any other traitor. >> well, absolutely. i don't know if we can prevent any more information from being leaked out. i don't know if this was already given, i don't know how that all happened, but the fact of the matter is that i think he needs to be held to account for the release of this national security, very sensitive national security information. bill: peter, thank you. peter brooks is analyzing all that at the heritage foundation in our nation's capital. thank you, peter. heather? heather: well, why some of presidents -- let's talk about this, the unaffordable care act and why is some of president obama's most reliable allies are now slamming this signature piece of legislation. we'll talk with karl rove about this. he joins us -- there he is -- on

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heather: and we now have a fox news alert to bring you, and you're taking a look at new video of u.n. chemical weapons inspectors on the move again in syria this morning, headed out to look at another site. now, that team is expected to finish investigating allegations about poisonous gas attack on the syrian people as back in the united states we await a briefing on the progress and the diplomats continue to grapple other how the world or how the united states, actually, may respond to this. david lee miller is live at the united nations. good morning, david. what are we hearing from the weapons inspectors so far? >> reporter: well, heather, the weapons inspectors spent a portion of today at a hospital in damascus, a portion of the syrian capital that is still very much under the control of the assad regime. they were there to visit with soldiers who might have been affected by chemical weapons. syrian state media says the soldiers were overcome by fumes after finding chemical agents in a tunnel that was used by rebel

forces. and what's significant here is you have to keep in mind the syrian government maintains it never used chemical weapons and, in fact, says if there were chemical weapons used, it was the rebels who did so. meanwhile, the u.n. special envoy to syria says that the inspectors are going to leave syria on saturday, and he outlined what happens next. listen. >> they will be reporting to the secretary general, and we will know for certain what is the substance that has been used, because certainly something must have been used to hurt so many people. >> reporter: and, heather, what's important to keep in mind here is that the mandate of these u.n. inspectors is to determine if, in fact, chemical weapons were not used -- were used, not to assess blame. according to the obama administration, that is a foregone conclusion. it was the regime of bashar

assad. heather: certainly. let me ask you about this. at nonto do there's -- noon today there's supposed to be a meeting at the united nations, any progress to resolve this diplomatically? >> reporter: well, let's keep in mind that this conflict has been raging now for two-and-a-half years, and for the most part the united nations has been paralyzed, has not been able to take any effective action. the russians and the chinese have stated repeatedly that they are going to veto any resolution that could result in military action. in fact, the russians last week went so far as saying they would veto a watered-down press statement. so it is highly unlikely that the secretary general is going to be able to get the five permanent members of the security council to change course. heather: david lee miller at the united nations, thank you so much. bill: mounting criticism on obamacare. the unintended consequences it will have for many americans. the number of part-time jobs

shooting higher as many employers decide to evade the coming mandate to cover full-timers. karl rove, former senior adviser, deputy chief of staff to president george w. bush and a fox news contributor with us from his home in austin, texas. you wrote a piece in the wall street journal, i know you've got a white board, too, so i'll get you to explain it. you call it the un affordable careless act. actually, that was a great line by the headline writer, but my piece was about the unintended consequences of the bill. president obama never sold the affordable care act to the american people by saying, look, this is going to create more part-time jobs in the place of full-time jobs, and yet that's one of big consequences of the bill. if you take a look at it, under the affordable care act a full-time worker is defined as somebody who works as 30 hours or more a a week, and if you work 30 hours or more a week, your employer has to provide you with health insurance coverage. now, this encourages a

disincentive to employ people over 30 hours. the number of people who are working 30-34 hours a week has dropped 146,500 on average a month. the number of people working 25-29 hours a week has risen 119,000 on average per month. so employers are saying, all right, i've got you, you're working in my restaurant 34, 35 hours a week, you need that many hours plus tips to make ends meet, you're going to get less than 30 hours in my shop, and you're going to have to find another job to make up the rest -- bill: that's in reverse. what's below it real quickly? i can't read those numbers. >> well, here's -- in 2010 on average this is the year that the affordable care act was passed into law. on average there were 114,000 full-time workers added to the rolls each month, and we had a decline of 6,000 a month on average in part-time work aers.

thus far this year through july we've had an average of 21,700 full-time workers added to the employment rolls, and we've had 98,000 part-time workers. the point is employers are taking into -- bill: they sure are, yeah. >> -- the cost of the affordable care act, and they're hiring part-time people and -- bill: that's going to change livelihoods in america too. last hour we were debating richard trumka's head of the afl-cio. he doesn't like this law, and he's pushing for changes too. by way of twitter here, if obamacare so bad, j.j. arthur tweets, if it's so bad for union members killing benefits, what is it doing to the rest of us? how do you answer that? >> well, look, first of all, the unions are concerned about this issue of 30 hours because, remember, in a hot of these industries that are represented, you know, hospitality industry, food industry, service industry, if you've got hourly workers, you know, who are washing

tables -- washing dishes, waiting on tables, changing beds, you know, you could move them below the 30-hour threshold. so this impacts a lot of union workers. the second thing is that under the affordable care act a lot of these union workers are covered in what are called, you know, in what are called stand-alone plans. these are plans where the employer is actually the self-insurer. those people don't have to pay a new tax on insurance policies, but a lot of union members are not on those kinds of plans. they're in nonprofit plans where the insurance company may actually be run by the union, it happens with a lot of teachers, or in traditional plans. and be every one of those union members is going to have to pay a tax of 2-3% on the premium of their policy. bill: so you can understand why he doesn't like it. >> oh, yeah, sure. bill: we've seen the administration change the rules for others, including members of congress who passed the thing into law. so in all likelihood, trumka's

going to get what he's looking for, it's just a question of when. >> no, look, i doubt that he is. look, the president does not have the authority -- if there's a tax levied on every insurance policy in america, there's no statutory authority for the president to say, oh, no, no, wait a minute, my political allies, my buddies who got me elected, and mr. trumka's letter says, mr. president, remember, we walked the precincts, we delivered the vote, there's no authority for the president to exempt him taxation. trumka's also concerned, the exchanges have enormous generous subsidies, and it makes insurance more attractive for certain groups of people, particularly low-wage individuals. so it makes a lot of people who now today are paying their union dues in order to get a better benefit, it delivers some of the benefit without paying the dues. bill: okay, now, that could be. and you're saying trumka's not going to get what he wants, but we'll see how this changes. >> if he does get what he wants,

they're going to sue, somebody's going to sue if the president tries to -- bill: i got it. but we are about one month away, october 1st, i saw this tweet last night from imagine you can johnson. i mean, this guys got millions of followers. don't forget, obamacare officially starts october 1st. this is the beginning, karl, of a major push to get celebrities and bigtime people to get the word out. >> magic johnson so yesterday. katy perry has tweeted on this, president obama and she are trying to -- and they're going to spend, you're right, a lot of time getting celebrities to do this. and the reason is this: their goal is to sign up seven million people. the numbers are going to look bad unless a majority of those people are younger workers who are -- bill: buying into the system. >> -- first of all, pay a lot more and take a lot less out. you remember under a thing called community rating, younger workers pay a higher premium

than they would otherwise in order to subsidize the premiums -- bill: they have to buy in, you're right about that. >> so we're going to hear a lot from katy perry and her ilk about how important it is. all i've got to ask is, is katy perry willing to get can health coverage through the exchanges or from medicaid? i doubt it. i doubt it. bill: good question. >> love the purple hair though. bill: right on. we'll save that for the rope line at the next awardshows. to our viewers at home, shoot an e-mail to hemmer@foxnews.com, follow me on twitter @billhemmer, bya a, because you asked, just need one line, one question. heather: and in the state of california, they have school kids who are becoming indoctrinated into this and now promoting obamacare. well, the head of the intelligence committee with strong comments about what is happening in syria right now. why he says it relates directly to american security. bill: also, new audiotapes that

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bill: we mentioned this right before the break now, we have just gotten word of new 911 recordings that have been made plunge for the first time at the moment the boston bombings occurred. watch. bill: takes you back to a moment, doesn't it? plenty more of that will be heard soon. before a grand jury today,

one of the friends of dzhokhar tsarnaev will have his case heard. there were about three of his buddies who gave him aid and assistance, and there will be one before a grand jury today, so yoel let you know how that -- we'll let you know how that goes in boston. heather: a powerful republican congressman now saying that the crisis in syria is linked directly to u.s. national security. here's house intelligence committee chairman mike rogers. listen to this. >> this is as serious as it gets. your going to engage -- you're going to engage the u.s. military, there are consequences for doing that. heather: kt mcfarland, do you agree with him here? >> good morning. yeah, absolutely. if we're about to commit american military forces to combat even though we say, well, no boots on the ground, it's going to be maybe tomahawk missiles fired from ships in the mediterranean, nobody's going to overfly syria, the bottom line is we're about to commit american forces to combat, and we don't know what the

objectives are. what are they trying to achieve? what is the goal here? the president has not articulated it to the american people. even in the conference call last night he did not articulate it to our members of congress. so the question becomes what's he trying to achieve, and how will we know if he's achieved it? here's the thing, the only time anybody's articulated what our goals are was secretary kerry about a week ago saying we want to punish assad, and we want to deter further action. i'm not sure -- heather: on that conference call with 26 members of congress last night, but yet as we spoke with one earlier saying that there just wasn't enough specific information on that call that could give them, that would give them the sign-off, that would make them want to go along with this so far. i want to ask you about this because the president says that he does not want regime change, and he says that's one of the main differences between this and the situation in iraq before we went in back in 2003. but regime change could come as a result of this, and there are folks out there who are concerned that a power vacuum

could be created if assad is weakened and al-qaeda could step in. >> yeah. here's the problem, the strockest and most -- strongest and most powerful groups among the syrian rebels are not pro-democracy guys, not pro-western, they're pro-al-qaeda. they're al-qaeda affiliates. and we have seen in country after country whether it was afghanistan, iraq, libya, you go topple a dictator, and what comes next isn't necessarily better. and what happens if assad is toppled either think our actions or actions of our allies, although that was less likely, and what takes its place is al-qaeda. if we're worried about syrian government having its hands on chemical weapons, how are we going to feel if al-qaeda has its hands on chemical weapons? that has been their goal for a decade, getting their hands on weapons of mass destruction to use against americans. heather: boy, kt, this is a really tough debate, and certainly another issue to look at is iran. primarily a shia muslim country

as is iraq, as is syria, and iran, a lot of folks think, wants to create this regional power to really control that part of the world. >> yeah. it's called the shiite crescent, and the thought is that syria, syria's become a proxy battle for these other forces you're talking about. on one hand it's shiite iran supporting assad of syria, using hezbollah, the terrorist group in lebanon on one side of the equation. on the other side of the equation is some of the rebels, the al-qaeda-affiliated rebels supported by some of the wealthy gulf oil arab states. i think this is not the last war in the middle east, this is the beginning. the this is the beginning of a fight between sunnies and shiites that could play out for a generation. heather: yeah, you said it well, the beginning of something much larger. kt mcfarland, we're going to have to leave it there. thank you so much and have a great labor day weekend. bill: lucky to be alive, he is.

check out this man pinned inside of a truck after colliding with a freight train. >> there was a vehicle stopped for the train, and the dump truck operator was unable to stop and went around the vehicle into the train.

bill: an incredible rescue after a dump truck driver cashes into a freight train. -- crashes into a freight train. 53-year-old frederick lindsay is trapped in the wreckage in the state of maine. rescue workers hooked up an iv while he was trapped and a heart rate machine to monitor him. >> basically trying to do was cut the truck away from him so we could actually get to him and get him out. once we got the steering wheel cut out, the dash rolled up,

some things of that nature, then we could get to him and get him out. bill: the man you just heard from there is lieutenant frank coombs. good morning to you. how is he doing today? >> as far as we know, he's doing well. we've had no update other than yesterday afternoon. bill: so you're the first on the scene. >> the first fire unit. bill: you show up, and you see a human being inside of this dump truck in the position that he was in, and he was -- >> lucky to be alive. bill: and he was alive, right? >> yes. very lucky to be alive. bill: how did you get him out? >> it was a team effort between our department, bangor life department, life flight. we had a crew working with the jaws, and we just kept removing piece by piece until we could actually get him out. bill: so when you showed up, he was responding, right? >> oh, yes. he was talking to us, he was letting know where he hurt or if we tried to cut something that that might have pinched him or

pushed in against him. bill: wow. how's his neck? it looks like it hurts. >> i'm sure it's going to be sore this morning, but as far as we know, it's fine. bill: yeah. broken ribs, fractured pelvis, what else, lieutenant? >> all we know is what the local news was reporting, two fractured ribs and a fractured pelvis. bill: did he run the light or how did the collision happen? >> that i'm not sure of. the train was across the tracks. there was a car between, that was stopped for the train, and for whatever reason we don't know, he avoided hitting the car, went to the left and struck the train. bill: what were you talking to him about when he was inside trapped like that? >> we were just making sure that he was still with us, checking his level of consciousness, asking him questions, if he hurt, if he could feel what we were doing, things of that nature just to keep him talking to us. will: lieutenant do -- bill: lieu tempt, you did a terrific job. >> it was a team effort. bill: all the men and women

there in hampden, maine, our best. >> you're welcome, sir. bill: going to have some time to recover, certainly, but he is alive. heather: maybe it's just a woman's perspective, but it's hard to see someone who appears to be in so much pain. wishing for the best for him, hoping and praying. all right, we are waiting for secretary of state kerry to speak about the situation in syria just an hour from now. last night he spoke with top congressional leaders about a possible administration response. we'll bring you his comments coming up live.

>> a real catastrophe was avoided on the new york city afs wandered on to the tracks. mta shut doesn't service on two lines more than an hour as a transit worker and police officer tried to rescue the little kitties. it certainly wasn't easy. the workers eventually caught them, carrying them out in milk

crates. they're just lucky rats didn't eat them, right? bill: some big rats down there. you see them all the time. >> look at the cute little guys, you need a kitty, don't you? >> no i don't. that cat looks like a rat. just saying. have a great weekend everybody. >> you too as well. >> right now we have brand knew stories and breaking news. jon: all eyes on washington right now as president obama meets with national security team to weigh his next move in syria, after britain votes against military action to punish the assad regime for the reported use of chemical weapons. will the united states to it alone? fox live team coverage on rapidly unfolding events in syria. plus the bug guns are coming out to sell obamacare as the deadline to set up health care exchanges approaches after some major glitches in the rollout. a husband pleads not guilty to a shocking murder in florida. what he says happened before he posted pictures of his dead